1 00:00:04,550 --> 00:00:05,550 Start the clock. 2 00:00:55,259 --> 00:00:56,820 Oh, I love you too. 3 00:00:57,060 --> 00:00:58,720 Thank you so much. Listen. 4 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:01,340 I know. 5 00:01:04,459 --> 00:01:06,100 Thank you. I appreciate it. 6 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:09,360 Thank you. 7 00:01:10,380 --> 00:01:11,380 Thank you. 8 00:01:11,820 --> 00:01:13,220 Thank you. Wow. 9 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:16,860 What, did I have a heart attack or something? 10 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,900 I'm fine, but I appreciate it. And I know why you're happy. Congress. 11 00:01:21,320 --> 00:01:24,920 finally has passed a funding bill for the Homeland Security Department, which 12 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,640 means the TSA, the people who keep us safe from shampoo. 13 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:34,360 So that's finally over after 11 weeks. And all the big airports have already 14 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:38,460 been upgraded from complete shitshow to giant pain in the balls. So that's... 15 00:01:38,460 --> 00:01:45,360 But... Of course, 16 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,980 the big story, another week where political violence has... 17 00:01:49,690 --> 00:01:53,270 We're at its ugly head again. We are officially now, I'm sure you saw what 18 00:01:53,270 --> 00:01:57,110 happened at the Correspondence Center, in the age of Gen Z assassins. 19 00:01:58,610 --> 00:02:01,170 See this one? Before he did it, he took a selfie. 20 00:02:03,670 --> 00:02:04,910 No, I'm not making that up. 21 00:02:05,610 --> 00:02:07,310 His manifesto had jokes. 22 00:02:07,970 --> 00:02:10,050 Jokes. And it was on recycled paper. 23 00:02:10,270 --> 00:02:13,930 I mean, we're in a very different era. 24 00:02:15,270 --> 00:02:16,270 But, you know. 25 00:02:17,070 --> 00:02:20,410 So we know who this guy is now. At the time, what happened, nobody knew. 26 00:02:20,610 --> 00:02:24,110 No one knew because they just knew a guy. He had a shotgun. He had a .38. He 27 00:02:24,110 --> 00:02:25,110 hunting knives. 28 00:02:25,130 --> 00:02:29,610 Either it was a far -left activist heading out to kill or a right -winger 29 00:02:29,610 --> 00:02:30,610 heading out to dinner. 30 00:02:33,070 --> 00:02:40,030 But I am not surprised that it didn't work, that it failed, 31 00:02:40,130 --> 00:02:44,150 because trust me, from a comic, no one ever kills at the correspondence dinner. 32 00:02:45,210 --> 00:02:46,210 I've been there. 33 00:02:51,700 --> 00:02:55,620 Yeah. And, of course, the good news is that no one at the banquet was hurt, 34 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:57,480 really, as soon as it started. 35 00:02:57,860 --> 00:03:01,320 Everyone went under the table, where a lot of the Trump administration was 36 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:02,320 anyway. 37 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,760 I kid the... Oh. 38 00:03:09,340 --> 00:03:14,780 I kid the Trump people. They like a little nip of the sauce every once in a 39 00:03:14,780 --> 00:03:18,490 while. Now, when you saw pictures of this guy and you heard about him, 40 00:03:18,490 --> 00:03:22,410 at Caltech, it was like, it's a little disturbing. You know, he seemed like 41 00:03:22,410 --> 00:03:26,890 a nice, normal guy, the last person you would ever expect to be trying to kill 42 00:03:26,890 --> 00:03:32,390 the president until he was activated by James Comey's seashells. 43 00:03:35,250 --> 00:03:36,950 Have you heard about this? 44 00:03:38,730 --> 00:03:39,730 Yes? 45 00:03:40,470 --> 00:03:41,830 Very serious stuff. 46 00:03:43,620 --> 00:03:48,360 Justice Department is trying to put former ex -head of the FBI, James Comey, 47 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:54,460 jail for posting seashells. Why? Because the seashells spelled out 8647. 48 00:03:58,820 --> 00:04:01,020 He's the Manchurian beachcomber. 49 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:07,420 86, you get it? 86, get rid of 47. 50 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:12,760 Yeah, they're going a little crazy there in Washington, but it was a big week 51 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:14,020 for kings. 52 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:20,100 Are you fans of kings? A weird week for kings, because King Charles of England 53 00:04:20,100 --> 00:04:24,080 was here, spoke to a congress, got a standing ovation from the people who 54 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:25,480 to be at the No Kings rallies. 55 00:04:29,380 --> 00:04:35,900 And then, the rest of the time here, he hung out with Trump. These two... 56 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:41,640 When they're on a play date, they are having... No, they just vibe. They just, 57 00:04:41,660 --> 00:04:46,120 you know, same age. They kind of dig each other, and they get it. And, you 58 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:46,919 they're cousins. 59 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:48,260 They're 15th -room cousins. 60 00:04:48,540 --> 00:04:50,460 They share an ancestor, the Duke of Orange. 61 00:04:53,780 --> 00:04:54,780 No, 62 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:58,000 it's funny. 63 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,660 It is funny, because King Charles is officially a king. 64 00:05:02,270 --> 00:05:06,270 But he doesn't act or can't act. You know, England is a parliamentary system. 65 00:05:06,310 --> 00:05:07,350 And Trump. 66 00:05:09,010 --> 00:05:11,310 Trump this week put his face on a coin. 67 00:05:12,590 --> 00:05:16,890 You know, like Julius Caesar used to do. His face on a coin. It's like a regular 68 00:05:16,890 --> 00:05:19,010 coin, except it just doesn't make sense. 69 00:05:22,130 --> 00:05:23,130 All right, Sid. 70 00:05:24,730 --> 00:05:27,490 Oh, yeah, over at the war. 71 00:05:28,150 --> 00:05:29,150 Remember the war? 72 00:05:29,590 --> 00:05:30,590 You remember the war. 73 00:05:31,270 --> 00:05:33,850 No changes. The staring contest continues. 74 00:05:34,850 --> 00:05:38,210 This is getting uncomfortably like a relationship fight. 75 00:05:39,590 --> 00:05:45,130 And we're at the not speaking, we're arguing over who broke up with who 76 00:05:46,290 --> 00:05:47,750 Fuck that. I fucked that up. 77 00:05:48,630 --> 00:05:52,990 It wasn't going to be that big anyway. I'm telling you, you didn't miss a lot. 78 00:05:58,030 --> 00:06:00,810 But at least good news out here. You know why? 79 00:06:01,150 --> 00:06:04,830 Hollywood, hello. The box office, back again, baby. 80 00:06:05,290 --> 00:06:08,850 Devil Wears Prada opens today. They think that's going to make a fortune. 81 00:06:09,010 --> 00:06:12,530 Project Hail Mary was a big hit. People are going to the movies again. 82 00:06:14,570 --> 00:06:15,570 Yeah, man. 83 00:06:17,030 --> 00:06:19,350 Oh, and Michael, the Michael Jackson movie. 84 00:06:19,590 --> 00:06:21,710 Huge. Oh, you saw it, yeah. 85 00:06:22,510 --> 00:06:24,950 Yeah, especially among the younger generation. 86 00:06:25,230 --> 00:06:26,770 Michael's really good at luring kids. 87 00:06:28,820 --> 00:06:29,820 No, the movie. 88 00:06:31,500 --> 00:06:37,100 And also big news here from California. 89 00:06:37,500 --> 00:06:38,980 The billionaire's tax. 90 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,820 You know what this is? They've been talking about it for a long time. A one 91 00:06:41,820 --> 00:06:45,660 -time tax if you have a billion dollars. And now, just this week, we got the 92 00:06:45,660 --> 00:06:49,420 news of enough signatures for it to be on the ballot in November to send a 93 00:06:49,420 --> 00:06:50,420 powerful message. 94 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:54,640 California doesn't belong to the rich. It belongs to the millions of faceless, 95 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:56,540 anonymous people who are running for governor. 96 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:57,759 All right. 97 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:01,380 We've got a great show. We have the governor. We have Jillian Tutt and Brett 98 00:07:01,380 --> 00:07:06,420 Stevens, but also the Democratic governor of this state, host of the This 99 00:07:06,420 --> 00:07:10,100 Gavin Newsom podcast, and author of Young Men in a Hurry, a Memoir of 100 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:11,640 our governor, Gavin Newsom. 101 00:07:15,180 --> 00:07:16,180 All right. 102 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:19,260 Good to be home. Good to be home. 103 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:24,840 All right. 104 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:32,180 So you heard what I ended there with, the billionaire tax. And I know you are 105 00:07:32,180 --> 00:07:35,380 against the billionaire tax. So this is interesting to people who don't live 106 00:07:35,380 --> 00:07:39,460 here and follow it. They would think, oh, Gavin is some far lefty. He's going 107 00:07:39,460 --> 00:07:40,880 be for the billionaire tax. 108 00:07:41,100 --> 00:07:44,900 But you're not. Well, I think billionaires do need to be taxed more, 109 00:07:44,900 --> 00:07:49,520 not at the state level. Capital moves. And the challenge with this particular 110 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:53,500 tax. If it doesn't include firefighters and teachers, they're left out of the 111 00:07:53,500 --> 00:07:58,240 tax. It's one time. And we've already seen dozens and dozens of people leave 112 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:02,760 state. But my state of mind is crystal clear. At a federal level, the imbalance 113 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:07,380 between the rich and the poor has got to be addressed. And the issue of ultra 114 00:08:07,380 --> 00:08:13,000 wealthy folks like Buffett, folks like Bezos, folks like Bloomberg paying one 115 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:17,460 two percent tax. You pay, Bill, a hell of a lot more. I talked about it last 116 00:08:17,460 --> 00:08:21,870 week. They tax the shit out of us, the regular rich. Yeah. 117 00:08:23,030 --> 00:08:26,290 No one stands up to the regular rich. No one's standing up. 118 00:08:27,650 --> 00:08:31,090 And two with the point. So for the ultra -wealthy, we've got to deal with a 119 00:08:31,090 --> 00:08:34,370 stepped -up basis. We've got to deal with the fact that we're not taxing 120 00:08:34,370 --> 00:08:37,570 gains at income tax or ordinary income. We've got to address the fact they're 121 00:08:37,570 --> 00:08:41,929 borrowing against tax about their capital gains, and they're passing on 122 00:08:41,929 --> 00:08:46,450 massive trusts without any taxation to the next generation. All of that needs 123 00:08:46,450 --> 00:08:50,420 happen, but this... Particular tax is not the answer. Okay, but we're not here 124 00:08:50,420 --> 00:08:53,300 to talk about politics. You're you What 125 00:08:53,300 --> 00:08:59,840 do 126 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:02,800 you want to talk about your book Oh, that's it. 127 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:07,360 A politician with a book. You forgot what you're doing. I forgot this is a 128 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,140 tour. You're on a book tour. I'm on a book tour. A young man in a hurry. 129 00:09:10,500 --> 00:09:11,500 Exactly. 130 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:15,640 It's about the book. We're not talking about the book. It's just about the 131 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,280 Yes, sir. How is the book affecting your campaign for president? 132 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:27,160 I know it's a good thing. I will say this. I don't know why everybody running 133 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:28,880 for president, not that you are or anything. 134 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:34,340 Has to write a book. But this one is different. It is not your typical book 135 00:09:34,340 --> 00:09:37,460 a politician writes. It's better. First of all, it's not sentimental. 136 00:09:38,260 --> 00:09:40,120 No. And it's really your voice. 137 00:09:40,380 --> 00:09:43,060 Yeah. You know, it's... What? 138 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:45,040 No, I appreciate it. Keep going. No, it is. 139 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:50,880 I'm enjoying this. It is. I mean, and, you know, it's honest in the sense that, 140 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:51,960 you know... 141 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,520 You didn't have the easy time a lot of people think. 142 00:09:54,940 --> 00:09:58,660 You had what I would call a normal fucked -up family. 143 00:09:59,980 --> 00:10:03,380 Every family's a little messed up, right? And that was yours. Yeah, a 144 00:10:03,380 --> 00:10:07,920 mom, divorced family, a mom that worked two, three jobs all her life, and a 145 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:11,360 father that was distant years and years trying to connect with him, and finally 146 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:15,180 I was able to do it, and he was there for the day I got elected governor and 147 00:10:15,180 --> 00:10:16,340 passed away shortly thereafter. 148 00:10:16,740 --> 00:10:20,020 And so it's a story that's very familiar with a lot of folks, and it's a story 149 00:10:20,020 --> 00:10:21,120 that's really a love letter. 150 00:10:21,580 --> 00:10:26,500 single moms. My rock star mom that just did everything to sacrifice for me. 151 00:10:27,750 --> 00:10:31,330 But, Bill, I appreciate what you're saying. This is not a book, you know, 152 00:10:31,330 --> 00:10:33,970 is not some triumphant BS book. 153 00:10:34,190 --> 00:10:38,010 I mean, I tried to scrutinize my life. I wasn't trying to sanitize anything, and 154 00:10:38,010 --> 00:10:41,450 I went back all my mistakes. If you don't like me, you should buy this in 155 00:10:41,450 --> 00:10:45,870 because there's all kinds of issues there that can exploit. But it's an 156 00:10:45,870 --> 00:10:50,290 portrayal of this young man in a hurry who put a mask on, and my face started 157 00:10:50,290 --> 00:10:53,150 growing into it, and I was becoming someone that I didn't want to be. 158 00:10:53,350 --> 00:10:56,030 And a big part of, you know, why I wrote it was just, 159 00:10:56,810 --> 00:10:57,729 Let go. 160 00:10:57,730 --> 00:11:01,630 And just, you know, just start to be myself, warts and all, and love me or 161 00:11:01,630 --> 00:11:05,150 me. Well, they will pick out things like that in the campaign and use them 162 00:11:05,150 --> 00:11:08,790 against you. I know. I'm just saying. What campaign are you keep referring to? 163 00:11:12,630 --> 00:11:13,609 You're right. 164 00:11:13,610 --> 00:11:15,390 You're right. Unbelievable, John. 165 00:11:15,730 --> 00:11:18,470 Really. Really. I meant your book tour. 166 00:11:22,630 --> 00:11:27,090 No, but I mean, as this, well, you are particularly the frontrunner. I mean, 167 00:11:27,110 --> 00:11:29,950 they do polling and you are the frontrunner of the Democratic Party. 168 00:11:30,090 --> 00:11:35,690 that's just a fact. I appreciate it. 169 00:11:36,550 --> 00:11:40,070 As the heat gets heatier, you... 170 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:44,620 It must worry you. I mean, what you saw this weekend in Washington. 171 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:49,260 Not just coming after you, obviously, when you run for office, the horrible 172 00:11:49,260 --> 00:11:53,880 things people write and people say, and there is nothing off limits to take you 173 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:57,860 down. No. And you've already been there, but it only gets worse the closer you 174 00:11:57,860 --> 00:12:01,440 get to the prize. That's right. What did you think when you saw that this 175 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,020 weekend? Well, evil. I mean, you know, you've got to condemn it. You've got to 176 00:12:04,020 --> 00:12:05,020 call it out. 177 00:12:05,339 --> 00:12:08,920 And so I don't like the rhetoric on either side. We all have to be held to a 178 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:09,920 higher level of accountability. 179 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:12,120 So, you know, that's easy to condemn. 180 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:15,100 But there's also an asymmetry here. You have the president of the United States 181 00:12:15,100 --> 00:12:16,900 that set the tone and tenor for this country. 182 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:20,520 And that's not a partisan statement. That's an institutional statement. He's 183 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:23,840 president. And you just made the point. What did he do the day after? He talked 184 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:27,800 about, you know, a beach photo and an indictment of one of his enemies. He 185 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:30,320 talked about his ballroom, his Kremlin ballroom. 186 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:35,410 He's not doing anything to try to unite this country in any way. shape or form 187 00:12:35,410 --> 00:12:40,070 and you know for me uh that's to to me that's the biggest reflection of this 188 00:12:40,070 --> 00:12:47,070 moment is is how the just the sewer that we're now living in 189 00:12:47,070 --> 00:12:52,150 because of donald trump uh and he's allowed all of it to us to feel free to 190 00:12:52,150 --> 00:12:57,050 shove again and i think if nothing else forget but many people would say that 191 00:12:57,050 --> 00:13:01,390 you are imitating him you among all the people who may or may not be running 192 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:06,440 You were the one who kind of imitates his style with the trolling. 193 00:13:07,260 --> 00:13:09,100 You're suing Fox now, I understand. 194 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:11,200 We're going into discovery. 195 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:14,880 Fox better look to settle right now or apologize for defamation. 196 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:16,940 Okay, but that sounds exactly like what he does. 197 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:18,200 Suing media? 198 00:13:18,420 --> 00:13:20,440 Different point. Well, then don't defame, don't lie. 199 00:13:21,380 --> 00:13:24,980 Again, but that does sound like him. Well, here's the point. I'm trying to 200 00:13:24,980 --> 00:13:26,320 mirror up to Donald Trump. Yeah. 201 00:13:26,680 --> 00:13:29,380 And I think it's important with a sense of humor as well. 202 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:33,360 The deviation of normalcy is off the chart. This is a guy cosplaying as the 203 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:38,420 Pope, dressing up as Jesus, a guy putting his face on Mount Rushmore, 204 00:13:38,420 --> 00:13:42,600 all cap. None of this is normal. And you may recall when I first started doing 205 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:46,860 this, the folks on Fox said, oh, this is so unbecoming of the governor of 206 00:13:46,860 --> 00:13:51,900 California. He should wash out his mouth with soap and water with no situational 207 00:13:51,900 --> 00:13:56,150 awareness. that their dear leader has been doing this for years and years and 208 00:13:56,150 --> 00:13:57,330 years. He's a man -child. 209 00:13:57,630 --> 00:14:02,370 And so I think it's important to call that out, the dignity of the president 210 00:14:02,370 --> 00:14:03,370 the United States. 211 00:14:05,230 --> 00:14:08,470 But again, we're not trying to dehumanize. 212 00:14:08,870 --> 00:14:14,290 We're just trying to reflect that reality and express the absurdity of all 213 00:14:14,290 --> 00:14:17,370 this. And look, the absurdity, it's every day. 214 00:14:17,900 --> 00:14:20,260 It's a corruption story, the Trump administration. 215 00:14:20,660 --> 00:14:23,300 You referenced it obliquely in the opening monologue. 216 00:14:23,500 --> 00:14:27,740 But let's get serious. He's got eight or nine countries. He's done major golf 217 00:14:27,740 --> 00:14:28,940 course or development deals. 218 00:14:29,180 --> 00:14:33,220 It's meme coins and stable coins. It's a crypto. It's World Liberty Financial. 219 00:14:33,900 --> 00:14:37,600 It's getting, you know, a piece of the piece. I mean, the piece board is about 220 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:41,620 getting a piece for Witkoff and for Kushner. You see Donald Trump Jr. 221 00:14:41,900 --> 00:14:44,260 in the drone companies, in the mineral companies. 222 00:14:44,460 --> 00:14:47,140 You're seeing the kind of corruption that's not, you know, not. 223 00:14:47,500 --> 00:14:49,340 $60 Bibles. It's not sneakers. 224 00:14:49,580 --> 00:14:51,000 It's not $100 ,000 watches. 225 00:14:51,300 --> 00:14:54,480 It's the greatest grift we've ever seen in our lifetime. 226 00:14:54,780 --> 00:14:59,440 And that also needs to be called out. We can't allow any of this to be 227 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,160 normalized. So our social media is part of that. 228 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:05,520 And that's why we've got to continue to be accountable. 229 00:15:06,060 --> 00:15:10,800 Okay. Well, that's all true. And it's going to be a great part of your 230 00:15:13,310 --> 00:15:16,670 The other stuff, what they're going to say, though, is, but have you seen the 231 00:15:16,670 --> 00:15:17,670 stats from California? 232 00:15:17,910 --> 00:15:18,910 Good. 233 00:15:20,020 --> 00:15:24,260 For the largest economy, let's go. Are they going to say good about gas prices? 234 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:26,820 Are they going to say good about how high the rents are? 235 00:15:27,460 --> 00:15:30,560 I mean, there's a whole litany. I mean, the train. 236 00:15:31,060 --> 00:15:33,340 Gavin, you've got to get rid of the train. 237 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:36,300 I say this as a friend. You've got to let that train go. 238 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,120 It's up to $231 billion. No, it's not. 239 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:45,220 We're doing a $119 million segment. We've got it back on track. It goes back 240 00:15:45,220 --> 00:15:49,220 three administrations. I inherited a mess. We put it back on track. track. 241 00:15:49,220 --> 00:15:52,600 the environmental work is behind us. We're actually laying the track. All the 242 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:56,600 legal litigation, all the land issues are all behind us. We're actually making 243 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:58,280 this project work. 244 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,020 And so that's a fact. Now, on the issue of California. 245 00:16:01,540 --> 00:16:05,060 Well, it's been a long time coming. Of course it has. And you can't make up for 246 00:16:05,060 --> 00:16:10,300 the past. I can only make up for my segment, literally and figuratively, as 247 00:16:10,300 --> 00:16:14,080 governor over the last seven years. But look, you talk about California. We're 248 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:15,960 the envy of the world. 249 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:20,240 Since I've been governor, no other developed nation has outperformed our 250 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:24,000 economy. No other state has outperformed the economy of the state of California. 251 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:25,080 Do you think people feel that? 252 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,880 They may not feel that in every way, shape, or form, but we dominate in every 253 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:33,180 key industry. We dominate in manufacturing, agriculture, hunting 254 00:16:33,180 --> 00:16:37,360 jobs, more scientists, more Nobel laureates, more researchers, the highest 255 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:41,600 system of higher education, the finest in the world, more venture capital. You 256 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:45,480 talk about the future, you're talking about California and AI and quantum. 257 00:16:45,770 --> 00:16:47,350 on fusion, on space. 258 00:16:47,950 --> 00:16:49,490 California is dominant. 259 00:16:49,930 --> 00:16:52,650 We also have seen the last three years population growth. 260 00:16:52,930 --> 00:16:57,110 We've got to update our talking points. We've seen a 9 % decline in unsheltered 261 00:16:57,110 --> 00:17:01,930 homelessness. Got to update our talking points. We've seen a 60 % increase in 262 00:17:01,930 --> 00:17:07,329 permits for housing. We've got to update talking points. I'm very proud of the 263 00:17:07,329 --> 00:17:08,329 state of California. 264 00:17:16,300 --> 00:17:17,300 When I see this. 265 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:18,619 Oh, God. Here we go. 266 00:17:19,589 --> 00:17:22,869 I see a front run. I see this thing with the head. 267 00:17:23,089 --> 00:17:24,089 Unbelievable. 268 00:17:24,450 --> 00:17:26,170 Look at that, Bill. Look at that. 269 00:17:26,890 --> 00:17:31,310 So there's a governor race going on here now. Any favorites? 270 00:17:32,010 --> 00:17:37,310 I'm trying to avoid it. I mean, the only thing I'm focused on is making sure 271 00:17:37,310 --> 00:17:41,090 that Democrats don't get locked out. It's an open primary, just two 272 00:17:41,090 --> 00:17:45,830 running, lots of Democrats running, Democrats diluting, top two. So let's 273 00:17:45,830 --> 00:17:48,790 sure there's a Republican and a Democrat in the runoff. Okay. 274 00:17:49,610 --> 00:17:54,390 I want to read a... Remember Barney Frank? 275 00:17:54,970 --> 00:17:59,030 He's ailing. I wanted to say, if you're watching, we love you. 276 00:17:59,370 --> 00:18:02,950 I always say he's my favorite congressman. He was my favorite. 277 00:18:03,550 --> 00:18:10,110 He said Democrats have embraced an agenda that goes beyond what's 278 00:18:10,110 --> 00:18:13,750 acceptable. What do you think he means by that? I don't know. I think maybe 279 00:18:13,750 --> 00:18:17,030 talking about some of the things you've talked about for years and things that 280 00:18:17,030 --> 00:18:18,030 I've... 281 00:18:18,360 --> 00:18:22,420 brought up as well as around being more culturally normal, which comes across 282 00:18:22,420 --> 00:18:23,780 very negatively. 283 00:18:24,060 --> 00:18:28,280 What does that mean? Words matter. The way we talk about things matter. 284 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:30,700 Getting stuck in identity politics. 285 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:35,080 Some of the policies, not all. Is there anything you're going to say California 286 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:39,460 was too far left on? Because I feel like if you don't, I think a lot of the 287 00:18:39,460 --> 00:18:42,580 country is not going to listen. Yeah, look, I mean, I think there's a lot of 288 00:18:42,580 --> 00:18:44,920 things that, you know, I've said this in the past, things I could have done 289 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:49,000 better, more. I look back at COVID. We just put out. detail, over a thousand 290 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:52,980 pages, what we did right and wrong during COVID as it relates to the issues 291 00:18:52,980 --> 00:18:57,160 outdoor and beaches being shut down, schools being shut down for too long. 292 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:00,600 we also made the point we had a lower death rate than any other large state, 293 00:19:00,660 --> 00:19:03,720 that our economy recovered faster than any other large state. And we had one of 294 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:08,240 the fastest vaccine rollouts in the country. So there's good and bad on the 295 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:11,100 issue of housing and homelessness, what we could have done more aggressively 296 00:19:11,100 --> 00:19:16,300 sooner. But on social issues, where I think you tend to be leaning towards, 297 00:19:16,300 --> 00:19:20,620 know, I've also So I've made my point of view. No, it relates to issues of 298 00:19:20,620 --> 00:19:24,960 sports and transports, which I just think it's not being transphobic. Common 299 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:30,260 sense. But I get how people are sensitive to that because that's been 300 00:19:30,260 --> 00:19:34,660 and people have been talked down to. And the community has been abused by those 301 00:19:34,660 --> 00:19:37,900 that want to take advantage of this politically. So there's a sensitivity in 302 00:19:37,900 --> 00:19:42,200 that. But look, if we're in identity space, if we're fighting the last 303 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:43,159 war, we're toast. 304 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,500 And perhaps that's what Barney's referring to. 305 00:19:46,090 --> 00:19:50,010 you've been preaching and practicing, I think, appropriately for a long, long 306 00:19:50,010 --> 00:19:51,990 time. Well, you know, I certainly 307 00:19:51,990 --> 00:19:58,990 practiced it on my podcast, which 308 00:19:58,990 --> 00:20:02,630 I'd like you to do, Club Random, where I practice something that is legal. 309 00:20:02,910 --> 00:20:06,490 And by the way, who legalized that? You did. I just want to go on. 310 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:08,640 I just want to go on this. 311 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:10,400 Good luck with your book. 312 00:20:10,700 --> 00:20:14,640 Thank you. And whatever else you may be doing. God bless you. Whatever else you 313 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,720 are. Governor Gavin Newsom. Thank you, Paul. 314 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:18,920 All right. 315 00:20:18,940 --> 00:20:19,940 Let's get off that. 316 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:29,960 Okay. Here's the Pulitzer Prize -winning opinion columnist for The New York 317 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:31,600 Times. Brett Stevens is over here. 318 00:20:34,830 --> 00:20:38,910 A bearded Brett Stevens. And she's the head of King's College, Cambridge, and a 319 00:20:38,910 --> 00:20:42,090 columnist for the Financial Times, Jillian Tett. Hey, good to see you. 320 00:20:43,910 --> 00:20:44,910 Okay. 321 00:20:46,070 --> 00:20:49,830 Well, let's get the ugly news about the political violence out of the way first, 322 00:20:49,910 --> 00:20:51,270 because we have to talk about it. 323 00:20:51,630 --> 00:20:54,970 I'm just going to vomit my take on it, and then you can argue. 324 00:20:55,750 --> 00:20:58,950 I would just like to say, if you're one of these people, and there's many in 325 00:20:58,950 --> 00:21:02,550 this country who watched that and was disappointed the president wasn't 326 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:05,480 See, they're laughing at that. 327 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:07,440 You're not a good person. 328 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:09,320 Or a smart person. 329 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:14,100 But definitely not a good person. I was reading this in your paper, an interview 330 00:21:14,100 --> 00:21:18,740 with Governor Pritzer of Illinois, and they asked him, like, where does the 331 00:21:18,740 --> 00:21:22,100 president have to be? And he said, good, decent, and kind. 332 00:21:22,340 --> 00:21:26,420 Which, who can disagree with that? And certainly Trump has often not been good, 333 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:27,439 decent, or kind. 334 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:32,580 But he's not Hitler. You can't say that you are... 335 00:21:33,100 --> 00:21:37,420 fighting for democracy or a believer in democracy and at the same time excuse 336 00:21:37,420 --> 00:21:42,240 political violence as a mechanism for political change. It's one or the other. 337 00:21:42,360 --> 00:21:47,880 And that's the essence of our system, that it gives us the opportunity to 338 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:53,420 things through the will of the people and not through the barrel of a gun. And 339 00:21:53,420 --> 00:21:58,320 people who don't get that don't understand the basis of the system they 340 00:21:58,320 --> 00:21:59,700 supposedly championing. 341 00:22:05,710 --> 00:22:11,150 If you look at opinion polls, it's scary how much of a proportion of Gen Z are 342 00:22:11,150 --> 00:22:15,610 now saying that they support some form of political violence to express, you 343 00:22:15,610 --> 00:22:16,650 know, their opposition. 344 00:22:16,990 --> 00:22:17,990 And that's got to change. 345 00:22:18,150 --> 00:22:21,270 I mean, that is simply not, as Brett says, the way to build a democracy. 346 00:22:21,510 --> 00:22:26,110 And it took King Charles to come over to America to essentially give a lecture 347 00:22:26,110 --> 00:22:27,110 about democracy. 348 00:22:29,170 --> 00:22:32,490 Well... And it's probably... 349 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:36,380 It was probably about the only lecture about democracy that President Trump, a 350 00:22:36,380 --> 00:22:38,120 .k .a. King Trump, would actually listen to. 351 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:43,220 You British really don't want to let go of that democracy. I am both American. 352 00:22:43,220 --> 00:22:47,780 You really, really don't. I swing both ways. I'm American and British. 353 00:22:48,100 --> 00:22:53,580 When you mention Gen Z, I also think that it's a function of an educational 354 00:22:53,580 --> 00:23:00,480 system that for way too long thought that censoriousness... was a mechanism 355 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:05,700 for social change, that telling people to shut up, that their views were wrong, 356 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:11,220 that you could shout down speakers, that you could disinvite people from your 357 00:23:11,220 --> 00:23:13,320 campus. You didn't have to listen to the other side. 358 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:17,980 You could go and occupy a college campus because you believed in, say, 359 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:24,760 Palestinian rights, and you wanted to champion 360 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:28,120 globalizing the Intifada. Eventually, that has consequences. 361 00:23:28,490 --> 00:23:32,830 I mean, there's a reason why you're seeing this kind of sense of permission 362 00:23:32,830 --> 00:23:36,730 among younger people for violent behavior. 363 00:23:36,950 --> 00:23:41,210 Because if you think globalizing the Intifada is like a cool slogan to chant, 364 00:23:41,210 --> 00:23:44,950 some point, whether it's the Intifada or some other trendy political cause, 365 00:23:45,150 --> 00:23:49,070 someone in that group is going to believe it's true and they're going to 366 00:23:49,070 --> 00:23:51,570 it. And it's not just universalism. I mean, 367 00:23:55,230 --> 00:23:57,150 a lot of this is actually TikTok, YouTube. 368 00:23:57,790 --> 00:24:01,490 all the kind of social media that presents these very simple one 369 00:24:01,490 --> 00:24:06,450 solutions and assume that you can basically treat life like a video game, 370 00:24:06,450 --> 00:24:08,330 you don't like it, go bang, bang, and it's over. 371 00:24:08,670 --> 00:24:11,050 But some of the rhetoric is not just from TikTok. 372 00:24:11,250 --> 00:24:12,790 I get why that's a sewer. 373 00:24:13,590 --> 00:24:15,030 But this is mainstream. 374 00:24:15,490 --> 00:24:19,850 I mean, it's funny because I remember when the shoe was on the other foot, and 375 00:24:19,850 --> 00:24:23,030 the liberals used to always say, and they were right to say it, that a lot of 376 00:24:23,030 --> 00:24:25,730 this very violent rhetoric that we hear on the left... 377 00:24:26,140 --> 00:24:30,380 It inspires the borderline personality to then do something. 378 00:24:30,620 --> 00:24:34,740 And they were right. I never thought they were wrong. But the shoe's on the 379 00:24:34,740 --> 00:24:38,320 other foot now. I mean, it's on both feet. But you've got to own this kind of 380 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:42,540 rhetoric. And, you know, if you call Trump, this is why I was against this, 381 00:24:42,540 --> 00:24:43,540 Hitler bullshit. 382 00:24:43,700 --> 00:24:49,520 I mean, if you really believe that he is a Hitler McPedophile, then you kind of 383 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:50,520 have to kill him. 384 00:24:50,810 --> 00:24:53,150 That's the mentality they have. 385 00:24:53,490 --> 00:24:56,810 Well, both sides. You've got extremists on both sides. And the tragedy is most 386 00:24:56,810 --> 00:25:01,270 Americans, the majority of Americans, actually are pretty centrist and don't 387 00:25:01,270 --> 00:25:02,270 like either extremes. 388 00:25:02,450 --> 00:25:06,070 But the political system is pulling us both ways right now. I think it's true. 389 00:25:06,190 --> 00:25:11,650 And I don't think that anyone who supports Trump and is horrified by the 390 00:25:11,650 --> 00:25:15,810 violence that they saw at the correspondence dinner or the two 391 00:25:15,810 --> 00:25:19,710 assassination attempts, they all have to take a big... 392 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:26,320 step back and ask themselves, how are they supporting a president whose tweets 393 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:32,570 or social media posts, whose rhetoric is consistently trying to 394 00:25:32,570 --> 00:25:36,670 delegitimize his political opponents. Trump did it not with one Democratic 395 00:25:36,670 --> 00:25:41,630 president, President Obama calling into question his birth certificate, but with 396 00:25:41,630 --> 00:25:43,090 President Biden as well. 397 00:25:43,350 --> 00:25:47,790 And I just would like to ask people on the right, imagine if this had happened 398 00:25:47,790 --> 00:25:51,550 two or three years ago when President Biden was in office and the killer was 399 00:25:51,550 --> 00:25:55,350 some guy or the would -be assassin was some guy with a manifesto saying that 400 00:25:55,350 --> 00:25:57,110 Biden stole the election of 2020. 401 00:25:57,890 --> 00:25:59,450 Where would he have gotten that rhetoric? 402 00:25:59,850 --> 00:26:04,770 So there needs to be a deep, you know, chill in terms of in terms of the way in 403 00:26:04,770 --> 00:26:08,150 which we speak about our political opponent. 404 00:26:08,390 --> 00:26:09,389 But here's the thing, Brett. 405 00:26:09,390 --> 00:26:10,390 I mean, you know. 406 00:26:13,190 --> 00:26:17,090 So I'm trained as a cultural anthropologist and anthropologists 407 00:26:17,090 --> 00:26:20,390 a lot of what my first mistake, apparently. Yeah, but. 408 00:26:21,379 --> 00:26:26,380 There's a lot of the rhetoric and stylistic, you know, performative 409 00:26:26,380 --> 00:26:30,380 that Trump has borrowed from the wrestling ring, if you look at how he's 410 00:26:30,380 --> 00:26:31,700 actually presenting himself politically. 411 00:26:31,980 --> 00:26:36,720 And an awful lot of it is about calling each other names and stage managing the 412 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,960 fake conflict like it's a game. 413 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,620 And so in a wrestling ring, it's fine. You can shout violence against each 414 00:26:42,620 --> 00:26:45,360 other, but then you take it to real life. Today we are talking about 415 00:26:45,360 --> 00:26:48,920 assassination, actually putting someone to death. 416 00:26:49,290 --> 00:26:53,690 What I'm saying here is that there is a problem with, of course, whatever you 417 00:26:53,690 --> 00:26:57,990 just said about Trump is true, and everything he tweets out and everything, 418 00:26:58,130 --> 00:27:03,810 there is a little bit of a difference between that and people who think we're 419 00:27:03,810 --> 00:27:07,130 a mess in this country. The way out of this mess is he dies. 420 00:27:08,490 --> 00:27:12,610 That's what a lot of people think. And I'm just telling you, I don't think 421 00:27:12,610 --> 00:27:15,590 you're a good person there. I wouldn't want to be that person who thinks that 422 00:27:15,590 --> 00:27:17,810 way. Also, it's just not smart. 423 00:27:18,300 --> 00:27:20,100 You think that's going to solve the problem? 424 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,920 He would be a martyr, first of all. 425 00:27:23,420 --> 00:27:25,180 J .D. Vance would be president. 426 00:27:25,460 --> 00:27:31,880 I mean, MAGA's not going to die. We tried impeaching. That didn't work. We 427 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:37,020 going to the courts. That didn't work. The only way this actually works, it's 428 00:27:37,020 --> 00:27:41,800 happening. His popularity is at the lowest level it is. Even among his core 429 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,800 supporters are falling off. The only way this ends is... 430 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:51,260 at the ballot box like in training day when denzel goes to the neighborhood and 431 00:27:51,260 --> 00:27:55,340 they've all turned on him and he's like i'm king kong up in here and they're 432 00:27:55,340 --> 00:27:56,520 like no you're not anymore 433 00:27:57,340 --> 00:27:59,880 That is the only way it actually ends. 434 00:28:00,100 --> 00:28:04,800 One brief additional point, which is that the left, including the hard left, 435 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:09,740 to learn how to speak about Trump without immediately equating him to 436 00:28:09,860 --> 00:28:13,040 You can be bad and not Hitler. 437 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:16,440 You can be wrong. 438 00:28:16,460 --> 00:28:18,660 You can be a worrying president. 439 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:24,820 At the same time, now I'm repeating you, the best way to do it is to argue your 440 00:28:24,820 --> 00:28:25,820 case. 441 00:28:25,870 --> 00:28:29,530 Once you start with Hitler, it's like any time you do, we've seen it in many 442 00:28:29,530 --> 00:28:33,890 places in the world where they make someone into, whether it's Rwanda or, 443 00:28:33,890 --> 00:28:38,750 know, the Hutus saying the Tutsi were Berman or the Hutu. Somebody was Berman, 444 00:28:38,750 --> 00:28:42,410 remember. The Tutsi was Berman. Whatever it was. And then the next, whenever you 445 00:28:42,410 --> 00:28:45,710 dehumanize someone to that degree, people are going, oh, I'm doing the, I'm 446 00:28:45,710 --> 00:28:48,410 hero. This guy wasn't crazy, crazy. 447 00:28:48,930 --> 00:28:50,030 Like, he wasn't hearing. 448 00:28:50,620 --> 00:28:55,140 You know, the dog wasn't talking to him and the moon. He just was like watching, 449 00:28:55,300 --> 00:28:59,240 you know. Social media, yeah. Yeah, the more virtuous you think you are. And 450 00:28:59,240 --> 00:28:59,799 media media. 451 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:03,600 And media media, yeah. The more virtuous you think you are, the more you have 452 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,260 permission to behave diabolically. 453 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:09,680 Can I go back to what Brett was saying? It's actually universities have a duty 454 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,720 to teach their students, the kids. 455 00:29:12,250 --> 00:29:17,430 about civilized, intelligent, respectful debate, about listening to all sides of 456 00:29:17,430 --> 00:29:22,430 an argument, about separating out an idea from a person, and actually 457 00:29:22,430 --> 00:29:26,530 you can have a furious row and then be friends with that person afterwards. And 458 00:29:26,530 --> 00:29:27,530 that is a good point. 459 00:29:28,470 --> 00:29:35,390 Okay, so another aspect of it I think that is new, which is 460 00:29:35,390 --> 00:29:39,150 that people now, when something like this happens, way more than they ever 461 00:29:39,150 --> 00:29:41,790 to before, go right to the conspiracy stage. 462 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:43,220 I mean, this was always something. 463 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:47,940 But I never heard the term false flag operation until I think it was the Sandy 464 00:29:47,940 --> 00:29:51,180 Hook shooting. Now that's immediate. We go right to that. 465 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:55,040 Okay, so anthropologists have looked at this a lot over the centuries. 466 00:29:55,240 --> 00:30:00,160 And whenever you have people losing trust in the system and or in a state of 467 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:04,000 great anxiety, you get conspiracy theories flourishing. They're not new. 468 00:30:04,220 --> 00:30:07,800 But right now, we have those two conditions in America, which are... 469 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,080 stoking up endless conspiracy theories. 470 00:30:10,340 --> 00:30:14,200 And, of course, social media and the digital world amplifies that. But can I 471 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:15,200 blame the universities? 472 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:17,900 Okay, I'm a target. 473 00:30:18,940 --> 00:30:23,100 I think this has something to do with the decline in critical thinking skills. 474 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:31,940 I remember watching, I think, one of the, Armstrong or Aldrin, one of 475 00:30:31,940 --> 00:30:34,400 the people who landed on the moon talking about... 476 00:30:34,830 --> 00:30:37,950 you know, the conspiracy theory about that being staged. And they made the 477 00:30:37,950 --> 00:30:42,990 400 ,000 people would have to be in on the secret and have to have kept the 478 00:30:42,990 --> 00:30:44,870 secret for decades. 479 00:30:45,370 --> 00:30:46,370 Exactly. 480 00:30:50,890 --> 00:30:53,230 No, but, I mean, that is where we are. 481 00:30:54,139 --> 00:30:56,420 We go right to it. We were staged. 482 00:30:56,980 --> 00:30:58,100 Everything was staged. 483 00:30:58,420 --> 00:31:01,780 You know, they don't believe it. They thought the assassination in Butler. I 484 00:31:01,780 --> 00:31:05,120 remember refuting lots of people who I thought were rather intelligent people. 485 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:09,660 And I'm like, how could it be staged? They shot the guy. The guy behind him 486 00:31:09,660 --> 00:31:13,360 the bullet. It's like we don't have the bullet. But now we have AI. So, of 487 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,580 course, people think the stage is becoming harder and harder to tell 488 00:31:16,580 --> 00:31:18,640 actually man -made and what's silicon -made. 489 00:31:19,020 --> 00:31:23,400 I mean, that's a problem. Yeah, but we also have people who don't know the 490 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,600 concept that if you have two... 491 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,860 the simpler one is probably the right one. Malcolm Fraser, it's a thousand 492 00:31:30,860 --> 00:31:33,840 years. I'd like to push back on what Brett said about universities. I do 493 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:35,700 with you. Universities are critical at this point. 494 00:31:35,940 --> 00:31:40,720 Overseeing King's College, we are fighting to have not just critical 495 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:45,280 developed, to have proper debate between the students, and to also have them 496 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,760 forced to talk about their ideas at length in front of a professor. 497 00:31:49,420 --> 00:31:53,580 All universities other than Cambridge and the University of Chicago are to 498 00:31:53,580 --> 00:31:55,640 blame. He was at Chicago. 499 00:31:56,270 --> 00:31:59,670 I'll say one other thing, which is that I was chatting to a head of American 500 00:31:59,670 --> 00:32:03,110 University the other day who said, well, we're having to change our mission 501 00:32:03,110 --> 00:32:04,110 statement, are you? 502 00:32:04,470 --> 00:32:09,650 I said, well, actually, King's College was founded in 1441 by King Henry VI, 503 00:32:09,650 --> 00:32:14,250 had his mission statement in pursuit of education, religion, learning, and 504 00:32:14,250 --> 00:32:18,530 research. Now, the religion part may be a bit controversial now, but that four 505 00:32:18,530 --> 00:32:23,030 -part mission statement from 1441 is basically what universities should be 506 00:32:23,030 --> 00:32:25,010 doing, education, learning, and research. 507 00:32:26,620 --> 00:32:31,000 Well, we can get back to this, but I just want to say this thing about 508 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:35,180 everything is staged. There is a magazine out now because people are so 509 00:32:35,180 --> 00:32:39,000 this theory all the time that something is staged, and we got a hold of it. 510 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:44,320 Would you like to see some of the articles and say, where is my copy of 511 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,420 Magazine? Look at this. 512 00:32:46,780 --> 00:32:51,740 For example, some of the articles this week, we spoke to the crisis actor who's 513 00:32:51,740 --> 00:32:53,540 been playing your neighbor since 2017. 514 00:32:59,190 --> 00:33:03,110 Exclusive photos, Will Smith and Chris Rock rehearsing the slap. 515 00:33:08,030 --> 00:33:10,870 Did Neil Armstrong's wife fake it? 516 00:33:13,290 --> 00:33:19,970 Was Gettysburg faked? 51 ,000 witnesses conveniently 517 00:33:19,970 --> 00:33:20,970 killed. 518 00:33:26,060 --> 00:33:28,780 Where are they now? Our interview with Jeffrey Epstein. 519 00:33:34,820 --> 00:33:40,300 I'm suspicious. We asked 12 scientists why the moon is visible at 2 p .m. and 520 00:33:40,300 --> 00:33:42,000 all 12 hung up on us. 521 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:52,240 The demons that attacked Tucker Carlson in his sleep break their silence. 522 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:02,200 Brad and Angelina together again? New clues from the back of the $1 bill. 523 00:34:07,940 --> 00:34:11,920 Alex Jones, get rid of your soon -to -be -worthless U .S. dollars by sending 524 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:12,920 them to me. 525 00:34:16,820 --> 00:34:21,600 And you won't believe who writes your text messages and how they convince you 526 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:22,600 it's you. 527 00:34:30,830 --> 00:34:36,429 So you seem absolutely head up to talk about this education stuff and higher 528 00:34:36,429 --> 00:34:41,610 education. Let's do it. The big story this week that I saw, Yale, that's here 529 00:34:41,610 --> 00:34:45,670 America, that's also pretty old. I've heard of that. Yeah. 530 00:34:45,949 --> 00:34:49,610 What is that? Back to the 17th century. Harvard is 1636. 531 00:34:49,889 --> 00:34:51,630 18th century for Yale, yeah. Oh, okay. 532 00:34:51,929 --> 00:34:53,110 All right. What is Chicago? 533 00:34:53,510 --> 00:34:55,510 Oh, like late 19th century. Yeah. 534 00:34:56,630 --> 00:35:02,210 Anyway, they wanted to study themselves why the trust in higher education was so 535 00:35:02,210 --> 00:35:06,710 in the toilet, which it is. Some of the things, tuition is too high, way too 536 00:35:06,710 --> 00:35:09,470 much bureaucracy, unfair admission standards. 537 00:35:09,710 --> 00:35:13,410 Certainly Asian people have sued about that, and I think won. 538 00:35:13,610 --> 00:35:18,750 Great inflation, but mostly it is indoctrination, what we were just 539 00:35:18,750 --> 00:35:25,130 about. At Yale, it's 36 to 1, the number of Democrats to Republicans who work at 540 00:35:25,130 --> 00:35:25,839 that school. 541 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:30,360 36 to 1. Even if you're a Democrat, you shouldn't think that that's a good 542 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:31,259 thing. It's not. 543 00:35:31,260 --> 00:35:34,500 It's never. That's why this state is fucked up in some ways. It's because 544 00:35:34,500 --> 00:35:36,180 there's nobody checking one side. 545 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:40,440 And they just do not like the idea that teachers now, or the professors, 546 00:35:40,620 --> 00:35:41,620 whatever, 547 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:47,900 see it as more a job of enforcing a political opinion than just instructing 548 00:35:47,900 --> 00:35:51,760 people. They see themselves as some sort of red guard, I think, a lot of them. 549 00:35:51,820 --> 00:35:53,140 Certainly the ones you hear about. 550 00:35:53,380 --> 00:35:55,260 And they seem to want to just... 551 00:35:56,049 --> 00:36:00,230 point the kids in a direction instead of just telling the kids what happened, 552 00:36:00,410 --> 00:36:04,590 what the facts are, and let the kids make up their own mind. Is that not 553 00:36:04,590 --> 00:36:08,430 accurate? Well, I haven't been at Yale, so I won't speak for Yale. I will give 554 00:36:08,430 --> 00:36:10,990 them some credit for actually having this. Well, in general, just all these 555 00:36:10,990 --> 00:36:14,250 elite schools. Well, yeah, I would disagree that the teachers necessarily 556 00:36:14,250 --> 00:36:17,190 that. I think issues around legacy admissions, high fees. 557 00:36:17,850 --> 00:36:21,430 You think teachers don't do that here in America? I think they do to some degree 558 00:36:21,430 --> 00:36:25,010 in some context. However, it's not just about that. It's also about the legacy 559 00:36:25,010 --> 00:36:28,850 admissions, the high fees, the completely screwed up system for handing 560 00:36:28,850 --> 00:36:30,970 grades, et cetera, et cetera. It's a bundle of things. 561 00:36:31,350 --> 00:36:35,510 Kudos to Yale for having looked at themselves and having issued this 562 00:36:35,750 --> 00:36:38,650 Because frankly, I can't imagine the White House doing anything like that 563 00:36:38,650 --> 00:36:39,650 anytime soon. 564 00:36:39,830 --> 00:36:42,630 Can you imagine the White House issuing a report on itself? And of course they 565 00:36:42,630 --> 00:36:46,150 had to overreact to the situation. Like many things that the White House does, 566 00:36:46,270 --> 00:36:48,490 they identify something that really is a problem. 567 00:36:48,830 --> 00:36:51,870 Sometimes the town doesn't need cleaning up, and then they clean it up in the 568 00:36:51,870 --> 00:36:55,070 wrong way. They cut off medical funding. What the fuck does that have to do with 569 00:36:55,070 --> 00:36:57,630 this? Absolutely. Well, Brett has got a great column on this. 570 00:36:58,540 --> 00:37:01,540 Look, I mean, I think it's a little bit different with the White House. I mean, 571 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,400 administrations are supposed to be partisan. 572 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:09,320 But the point of a campus is to have an opportunity to engage with points of 573 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,420 view that are radically different from your own. Like, I don't necessarily 574 00:37:12,420 --> 00:37:18,060 that Yale needs an even balance of Democrats and Republicans. But the 575 00:37:18,060 --> 00:37:22,220 have is that at elite institutions, you are getting echo chambers. And echo 576 00:37:22,220 --> 00:37:25,400 chambers are deadly for productive, critical. 577 00:37:26,170 --> 00:37:31,270 And what has to happen isn't for schools like Yale to set up little conservative 578 00:37:31,270 --> 00:37:35,570 islands or institutes or have a token faculty member. 579 00:37:35,790 --> 00:37:38,770 What they need to do is to make sure that in every department. 580 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:44,620 The people who are in the faculty are skeptics, contrarians, nonconformists, 581 00:37:44,620 --> 00:37:49,940 gadflies. That was there when I was at university over 30 years ago, again, at 582 00:37:49,940 --> 00:37:53,620 Chicago. It has to be there at every major American university. 583 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:59,260 Otherwise, we are graduating young people who think that they are much 584 00:37:59,260 --> 00:38:03,060 and much better critical thinkers than they are, and there's nothing worse than 585 00:38:03,060 --> 00:38:06,240 people who think they're smarter or brighter than they really are. Well, we 586 00:38:06,240 --> 00:38:07,240 of agree. 587 00:38:10,810 --> 00:38:15,630 For the benefit of any students watching, we can stage manage a kind of 588 00:38:15,630 --> 00:38:18,250 debate if you want. I can disagree with you, but we kind of agree on this, 589 00:38:18,270 --> 00:38:19,390 unfortunately. Okay. 590 00:38:20,410 --> 00:38:23,710 I'm glad we can end that there because there's a bigger story that we have to 591 00:38:23,710 --> 00:38:27,730 get to, which is the Voting Rights Act, which is the big story this week because 592 00:38:27,730 --> 00:38:31,850 the Supreme Court ruled on, it's so funny, it was only one week ago we were 593 00:38:31,850 --> 00:38:35,650 talking about gerrymandering because the state of Virginia decided to, and 594 00:38:35,650 --> 00:38:37,430 again, Trump started this with Texas. 595 00:38:37,750 --> 00:38:42,490 Let's gerrymander Texas, then Virginia, then California. 596 00:38:42,790 --> 00:38:47,810 We responded, now we're gerrymandering California, and Virginia went all in on 597 00:38:47,810 --> 00:38:52,690 it. Now the Supreme Court's involved, and the Voting Rights Act is involved, 598 00:38:52,690 --> 00:38:55,850 now it seems like, you know, I said last week, race to the bottom. 599 00:38:56,050 --> 00:38:57,490 That race took one week. 600 00:38:57,750 --> 00:38:59,390 We're already at the absolute bottom. 601 00:38:59,610 --> 00:39:02,050 If you don't know what the Voting Rights Act is, it's from 1965. 602 00:39:02,910 --> 00:39:06,350 Twenty years ago, when they voted to re -up it, it was completely 603 00:39:06,350 --> 00:39:09,460 uncontroversial. 98 -0 in the Senate. 604 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:14,660 And let's be honest, the Voting Rights Act itself is gerrymandering. We've 605 00:39:14,660 --> 00:39:17,560 always had gerrymandering. No computer ever drew a district. 606 00:39:17,780 --> 00:39:21,520 Humans always did it. And what they were doing with the Voting Rights Act was 607 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:25,460 saying, we're going to draw some districts where black folks can't lose. 608 00:39:26,230 --> 00:39:30,510 As it should be. Because otherwise, you could draw the map in such a way, which 609 00:39:30,510 --> 00:39:31,510 is they're doing now. 610 00:39:31,770 --> 00:39:35,830 Louisiana is a third black. You could draw it so that all those people, we're 611 00:39:35,830 --> 00:39:37,730 not stopping anyone from voting. They're voting. 612 00:39:38,010 --> 00:39:41,170 They just won't get a representative in Congress. Because we're going to draw 613 00:39:41,170 --> 00:39:45,050 the map in such a way that everywhere they vote, they only get 40 % of the 614 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,120 Assuming that they vote for the Democratic Party, but that's a fair 615 00:39:49,340 --> 00:39:52,400 If you're simultaneously saying, this is so critical, if you're simultaneously 616 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:56,440 saying the way to deal with a president you don't like is go to the polling 617 00:39:56,440 --> 00:40:01,860 booth, not with a gun, then you have to fight with every thing in your body to 618 00:40:01,860 --> 00:40:05,400 ensure that the voting system is credible and trusted. 619 00:40:05,900 --> 00:40:12,060 And right now... You don't know why... 620 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,360 You know why Gen Z is going to violence? It's because people don't trust the 621 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:16,740 voting system. And that's tragic. 622 00:40:17,180 --> 00:40:20,860 I mean, I think there are two issues at stake. One is the question of the 623 00:40:20,860 --> 00:40:26,100 gerrymander. And I think the biggest mistake was made not last week, but it 624 00:40:26,100 --> 00:40:28,640 made seven years ago with a Supreme Court. 625 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,920 a case called Rucho v. Common Cause, which basically said that courts could 626 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:38,120 intervene to prevent outrageously gerrymandered districts. And 627 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,900 basically means that the politician gets to choose his voters rather than the 628 00:40:41,900 --> 00:40:44,240 voter getting to choose their politicians. 629 00:40:44,620 --> 00:40:48,340 What we're talking about here is a question of racial gerrymandering. In 630 00:40:48,720 --> 00:40:53,680 racial gerrymandering for the sake of ensuring black representation in 631 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,460 states. And in 1965, that was... 632 00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:00,780 Without question, the right thing to do. It was without question the right thing 633 00:41:00,780 --> 00:41:03,520 to do in 1985 and perhaps in 2005. 634 00:41:04,420 --> 00:41:08,440 But that had to end at some point. And one of the points that you often make on 635 00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:14,320 this bill is that there has been a lot of racial progress in this country. And 636 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:19,780 so at some point, that principle that we were going to have to create special 637 00:41:19,780 --> 00:41:22,020 districts for the sake of ensuring. 638 00:41:23,620 --> 00:41:27,220 minority representation, at some point that was going to have to end. I think 639 00:41:27,220 --> 00:41:31,900 the question was, is 2026 the year in which to end it? And maybe the answer is 640 00:41:31,900 --> 00:41:38,340 after we've had a black president, after blacks have had so much... 641 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:42,960 Success and achievement in American life on their own merit. Isn't it time to 642 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:46,960 finally end this? And in that sense, I think the court made the right call. Oh, 643 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:47,678 you do? 644 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:52,300 You think they made the right call? In this case, yes. I think they're going to 645 00:41:52,300 --> 00:41:55,500 look back and think this is like, I mean, we've heard a lot of talk about a 646 00:41:55,500 --> 00:41:56,459 civil war. 647 00:41:56,460 --> 00:42:01,580 This is like a step toward that because I saw the map, the picture of the map of 648 00:42:01,580 --> 00:42:02,640 what it's going to look like. 649 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:07,280 There's going to be no black congresspeople from the South. 650 00:42:08,030 --> 00:42:12,290 You think you can cut off the part of the country that has the most African 651 00:42:12,290 --> 00:42:17,130 Americans in it, and that map is like completely red. Maybe there's a few, 652 00:42:17,130 --> 00:42:20,850 just the central Atlanta or someplace like that where it's going to... 653 00:42:21,310 --> 00:42:24,170 And you think people are just going to take that lying down? 654 00:42:24,390 --> 00:42:27,970 If that's the result, I will absolutely eat crow. That's wrong, okay? 655 00:42:28,170 --> 00:42:31,450 What I think you're going to have, what you think you're actually going to have, 656 00:42:31,550 --> 00:42:34,410 is you're going to have black representation, but a lot more of it is 657 00:42:34,410 --> 00:42:35,069 be Republican. 658 00:42:35,070 --> 00:42:38,050 But, Britt, we're faced with a situation right now where public trust in 659 00:42:38,050 --> 00:42:40,830 democracy, in Congress, in voting is collapsing. 660 00:42:41,390 --> 00:42:42,670 Why would you do it now? 661 00:42:43,260 --> 00:42:46,880 How is this going to rebuild trust in any way, shape, or form in the system? 662 00:42:47,060 --> 00:42:51,000 Well, I mean, public trust is collapsing on both sides. So why make it worse? 663 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:55,120 Well, I don't think it's making it worse because I think that the basis of our 664 00:42:55,120 --> 00:43:00,740 system is not to have racial gerrymanders of any form for whites or 665 00:43:00,740 --> 00:43:02,380 have an actual principle. 666 00:43:04,250 --> 00:43:07,710 of racial and color neutrality. I think that's the American standard. 667 00:43:08,030 --> 00:43:13,030 Now, in 1965, it was a very, very different period. We were just emerging 668 00:43:13,030 --> 00:43:18,870 Jim Crow and decades of segregation. I don't think we're in 1965. We're 669 00:43:18,870 --> 00:43:22,070 definitely not. We're definitely not, but we're not living in the future 670 00:43:22,470 --> 00:43:24,010 Yeah, I'm facing what's happening. 671 00:43:26,410 --> 00:43:28,530 We are in the future. 672 00:43:29,210 --> 00:43:34,230 You're having each political tribe now racing to become more tribal, not less. 673 00:43:34,430 --> 00:43:36,750 You're talking about combating echo chambers. 674 00:43:36,970 --> 00:43:40,510 You're creating echo chambers all over the place by doubling down on the 675 00:43:40,510 --> 00:43:43,270 concentration in terms of political sorting. 676 00:43:43,510 --> 00:43:45,730 So what do you think the Democrats should do about it? Anything? 677 00:43:45,970 --> 00:43:49,330 I think given that they're now faced with a situation where the Republicans 678 00:43:49,330 --> 00:43:50,750 gone ahead already, they have to respond. 679 00:43:51,010 --> 00:43:53,470 Otherwise, it's going to be a case of, you know, being sitting ducks. 680 00:43:53,750 --> 00:43:57,010 And the problem with Democrats so often is that they end up looking like the Boy 681 00:43:57,010 --> 00:43:58,010 Scouts against the mafia. 682 00:43:59,920 --> 00:44:03,300 You're talking about two different things. I actually agree with you that 683 00:44:03,300 --> 00:44:04,300 once... Actually. 684 00:44:07,300 --> 00:44:13,720 Agreement actually to quote a movie. There's one issue, which is the Supreme 685 00:44:13,720 --> 00:44:18,200 Court decision, which has to do with the Voting Rights Act of 1965 racial 686 00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:22,720 gerrymanders. The second question is, did Democrats have to respond with their 687 00:44:22,720 --> 00:44:27,420 gerrymanders once Texas and other Republican states did? And I think in 688 00:44:27,420 --> 00:44:32,100 case, the answer is, Sadly, yes, it's a race to the bottom, but Democrats 689 00:44:32,100 --> 00:44:37,320 couldn't sort of announce unilateral disarmament for the sake of a principle 690 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,900 which was going to leave them objectively weaker in Congress. 691 00:44:41,260 --> 00:44:46,200 Well, I mean, I do foresee a situation where, I mean... Thank you. 692 00:44:48,500 --> 00:44:51,320 That's the part that agrees with you actually over there. On the right, 693 00:44:51,420 --> 00:44:52,420 obviously. 694 00:44:53,340 --> 00:44:57,600 I mean, when you combine this with the attempt to... 695 00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:03,720 you know, stop voter fraud, which, you know, they've studied many times, and in 696 00:45:03,720 --> 00:45:08,260 -person voter fraud almost never happens. It doesn't really affect any 697 00:45:08,260 --> 00:45:11,400 elections. But they're trying to do that. And, yes, I mean, there are... 698 00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:15,880 lax voting situation in some places where you really don't have to show a 699 00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:16,880 ID to vote. 700 00:45:16,980 --> 00:45:18,960 But it doesn't seem to really affect the outcome. 701 00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:22,580 But that is what the Republicans are trying to do. When you combine that with 702 00:45:22,580 --> 00:45:26,020 some of the states here are going to rush to do this before the election. 703 00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:30,620 I mean, this midterm election was an election which the Democrats, because of 704 00:45:30,620 --> 00:45:34,300 Trump's unpopularity because of the war and the inflation and the rest of it, 705 00:45:34,340 --> 00:45:37,460 ICE, Doge, things that even his people didn't like. 706 00:45:38,420 --> 00:45:40,600 Democrats were going to walk away with this one. 707 00:45:41,150 --> 00:45:43,870 That may not happen now. And people know that. 708 00:45:44,070 --> 00:45:48,010 You think the violence is bad now? Wait till people know that the election that 709 00:45:48,010 --> 00:45:52,290 was absolutely supposed to be in the bag is not in the bag because they changed 710 00:45:52,290 --> 00:45:53,890 the rules and they fucked with the game. 711 00:45:54,650 --> 00:45:55,650 I agree. 712 00:45:57,190 --> 00:45:58,190 Okay. 713 00:46:01,270 --> 00:46:04,290 And people keep saying, you know, the danger of civil war, that kind of stuff. 714 00:46:04,370 --> 00:46:08,130 We don't have a civil war, thank God, on the streets. There is civil war in 715 00:46:08,130 --> 00:46:09,130 cyberspace already. 716 00:46:09,660 --> 00:46:11,800 or effectively civil war in cyberspace. 717 00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:16,760 It's a cold civil war. Yeah, exactly. It's a cold civil war. Yeah. Well, we 718 00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:18,480 we don't turn hot. Absolutely. 719 00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:20,980 All right. Thank you very much. Time for new rules, everybody. 720 00:46:22,240 --> 00:46:23,240 New rules. 721 00:46:24,260 --> 00:46:25,260 All right. 722 00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:32,800 No, let's not ignore the one obvious upside to the shooting at the 723 00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:33,800 correspondence dinner. 724 00:46:33,940 --> 00:46:37,820 Stephen Miller getting to know what it feels like to be whisked away by federal 725 00:46:37,820 --> 00:46:38,820 agents. 726 00:46:44,300 --> 00:46:49,780 Miller, the Australian woman who was on a family road trip, stopped to use an 727 00:46:49,780 --> 00:46:53,880 outhouse, fell in and got trapped waist deep in shit for three hours. 728 00:46:55,240 --> 00:46:56,760 Has to look on the bright side. 729 00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:00,300 You could have been back in the car with the kids. 730 00:47:09,180 --> 00:47:13,400 Neuro, not that we should condemn any college for what one of its graduates 731 00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:19,240 does, but since Cole Thomas Allen went to Caltech, yeah, fuck it, Caltech must 732 00:47:19,240 --> 00:47:20,940 be dropped in the college rankings. 733 00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:27,040 You gave this guy a degree in mechanical engineering and the best idea he could 734 00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:27,928 come up with? 735 00:47:27,930 --> 00:47:30,470 to get past security was run fast. 736 00:47:38,410 --> 00:47:41,590 He's less Carlos the Jackal and more Forrest the Gump. 737 00:47:47,990 --> 00:47:53,130 Now that all these ships are stuck off the coast of Iran, someone must make a 738 00:47:53,130 --> 00:47:54,950 hookup app called Hormuz. 739 00:48:03,470 --> 00:48:07,010 Because for those sailors stuck at sea, shipping isn't the only thing that's 740 00:48:07,010 --> 00:48:08,010 backed up. 741 00:48:13,930 --> 00:48:18,390 No, everyone has to stop saying, you know, pot is a lot stronger than it used 742 00:48:18,390 --> 00:48:20,350 be. Like it's a bad thing. 743 00:48:25,470 --> 00:48:30,330 I mean, what other product do people complain about when it gets better? 744 00:48:32,110 --> 00:48:36,650 And you know why it was weaker when we were young? I do, because I was a pot 745 00:48:36,650 --> 00:48:37,650 dealer. 746 00:48:40,210 --> 00:48:41,210 Thank you. 747 00:48:43,250 --> 00:48:46,630 Yeah. It's because there was no hydroponic then. 748 00:48:46,930 --> 00:48:51,990 No indoor grow room. No CO2 enrichment, genetic breeding, or precision 749 00:48:51,990 --> 00:48:53,070 irrigation systems. 750 00:48:53,590 --> 00:48:55,710 And also, I put oregano in it. 751 00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:09,340 And finally, new rule, stop making me know stuff I don't want to know. 752 00:49:10,780 --> 00:49:15,060 Did you know that the human brain actually has an actual finite storage 753 00:49:15,060 --> 00:49:19,180 capacity? It's estimated to be about 2 .5 million gigabytes. 754 00:49:19,740 --> 00:49:21,300 Impressive, but not infinite. 755 00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:25,020 That's why sometimes you just got to say, disk full. 756 00:49:34,030 --> 00:49:35,850 shoving things down my brain. 757 00:49:36,690 --> 00:49:41,510 A couple of weeks ago on our overtime segment, one of my guests used the term 758 00:49:41,510 --> 00:49:46,590 the Overton window, which up until a year ago, I had heard only once every 759 00:49:46,590 --> 00:49:47,590 never. 760 00:49:48,610 --> 00:49:50,490 But lately, I hear it everywhere. 761 00:49:50,970 --> 00:49:54,770 The Overton window. The Overton window. The Overton window. The Overton window. 762 00:49:55,010 --> 00:49:58,790 The Overton window. The Overton window. The Overton window. The Overton window. 763 00:49:58,930 --> 00:50:00,570 The Overton window. The Overton window. 764 00:50:05,100 --> 00:50:08,420 Sorry, but I just couldn't hold my tongue anymore. 765 00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:14,060 Well, the Overton window has opened up, you know, about... I don't know what 766 00:50:14,060 --> 00:50:15,940 that is, and I don't want to know what that is. 767 00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:18,660 Don't tell me. 768 00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:27,260 I wasn't kidding. This isn't a bit. I really don't know what 769 00:50:27,260 --> 00:50:30,780 the Overton window is, and I really don't want to know. 770 00:50:31,420 --> 00:50:32,680 So don't tell me. 771 00:50:38,510 --> 00:50:42,590 It may be the only thing that's still on my bucket list. I want to die not 772 00:50:42,590 --> 00:50:44,490 knowing what the opening window is. 773 00:50:47,830 --> 00:50:53,250 Now, maybe it's awesome, but it just seems like the kind of pedantic bullshit 774 00:50:53,250 --> 00:50:58,470 that triggers me. So if you try to tell me on the street, I'll keep walking. 775 00:51:00,010 --> 00:51:02,790 Try to tell me on a plane, I'll jump out a real window. 776 00:51:04,430 --> 00:51:08,150 If you start to explain it to me, I'll stop you. If you write it, I won't read 777 00:51:08,150 --> 00:51:14,750 it. I didn't order it. 778 00:51:17,150 --> 00:51:23,170 And I don't think I need it because I'm a strong believer in the academic theory 779 00:51:23,170 --> 00:51:25,830 of... I kind of get it. 780 00:51:35,020 --> 00:51:36,020 I kind of get it. 781 00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:41,960 The Overton window. It's something bad we don't want to pass through, and Trump 782 00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:46,920 is just making it worse, and I'm sure he is, but that's enough for me. I don't 783 00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:51,120 need to chase every one of your manufactured buzzwords down the rabbit 784 00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:55,540 A couple of... A 785 00:51:55,540 --> 00:52:02,380 couple of years ago, Joe Rogan and his 786 00:52:02,380 --> 00:52:04,160 guest, some guy... 787 00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:14,060 Took me to task for not knowing what WEF or MKUltra was. 788 00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:18,960 He doesn't even know what the WEF is. He didn't even know what MKUltra was. 789 00:52:21,380 --> 00:52:26,480 Okay, guys, WEF is World Economic Forum where the billionaires meet every year 790 00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:29,840 in Davos. Yes, I do know that. I just don't call it the WEF. 791 00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:35,740 If I hear Joe Rogan say WEF, I just assume it's some form of professional 792 00:52:35,740 --> 00:52:36,740 wrestling organization. 793 00:52:44,940 --> 00:52:49,920 And MKUltra, okay, the old CIA program where they experimented with LSD. Yes, 794 00:52:49,980 --> 00:52:52,360 I've read about it. I just don't use the decoder ring. 795 00:52:54,980 --> 00:53:01,980 Last week, when the news was all 796 00:53:01,980 --> 00:53:06,000 about the Supreme Court, suddenly everywhere, everywhere I looked or read, 797 00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:09,040 someone was talking about the shadow docket. 798 00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:14,020 Shadow docket. The shadow docket. Shadow docket. Shadow docket. Shadow docket. 799 00:53:14,060 --> 00:53:16,020 The shadow docket. Shadow docket. 800 00:53:21,260 --> 00:53:26,640 Yeah, the shadow docket. I kind of get it. Some kind of fuckery Trump's trying 801 00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:28,200 to pull, and I'm sure he is. 802 00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:32,320 But the court is kind of stopping him. A little bit. 803 00:53:35,420 --> 00:53:38,180 Here's another one I can't get away from. Looks maxing. 804 00:53:40,300 --> 00:53:46,120 I kind of get it. Some new fucked up shit the kids are doing. But come on, 805 00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:50,820 go away soon when they die. I don't... I 806 00:53:50,820 --> 00:53:56,540 don't feel like I need to know everything. 807 00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:59,860 I'm sure if I was a better citizen, I would research all these things. 808 00:54:00,340 --> 00:54:05,940 MKUltra and cognitive offloading and astroturfing and shitification and the 809 00:54:05,940 --> 00:54:06,879 shelling point. 810 00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:09,760 And I will, I promise, I'll bone up on all of them. 811 00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:12,980 But not the fucking Overton window. 812 00:54:22,820 --> 00:54:28,460 A man has to make a stand somewhere. I know enough. I know it's something 813 00:54:28,460 --> 00:54:33,300 liberal pundits care very deeply about, as do I, as do I, absolutely very 814 00:54:33,300 --> 00:54:34,440 deeply, whatever it is. 815 00:54:35,420 --> 00:54:38,820 Because I am with you on this, because I get it. I mean, I kind of get it. 816 00:54:40,620 --> 00:54:41,920 Now it's got to stop or start. 817 00:54:42,380 --> 00:54:46,640 Whatever it is, you cannot make me learn the actual meaning. I will not learn it 818 00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:47,538 on the panel. 819 00:54:47,540 --> 00:54:49,520 I will not learn it wearing flannel. 820 00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:53,260 I will not learn it in a tree. 821 00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:55,760 I will not learn it from chat GPT. 822 00:54:56,000 --> 00:55:00,280 I will not learn it on a yacht. I will not learn it smoking pot. I will not 823 00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:01,280 learn it from a cow. 824 00:55:01,460 --> 00:55:03,140 I will not learn it on MS Now. 825 00:55:03,340 --> 00:55:07,000 I will not learn it from social media. I will not learn it from Wikipedia. 826 00:55:07,420 --> 00:55:09,180 I will not learn it from a nerd. 827 00:55:11,720 --> 00:55:13,020 Learn your new dumb word. 828 00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:18,600 Look. 829 00:55:20,020 --> 00:55:21,020 Look. 830 00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:27,140 I wish I had unlimited storage, but I don't. 831 00:55:27,620 --> 00:55:30,240 I also will not learn the word heuristic. 832 00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:34,960 I hear it a lot lately. Heuristic. Sounds important. 833 00:55:35,260 --> 00:55:36,260 Fuck you. 834 00:55:43,720 --> 00:55:46,160 Whoever uses it is going to lose the election. 835 00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:48,840 Platform decay? 836 00:55:49,140 --> 00:55:52,340 If it involves my dentist, yes, I'll learn it. Otherwise, no. 837 00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:56,820 Groiper? I think I get it. A neo -Nazi with bad skin? 838 00:55:57,820 --> 00:56:00,080 If it's not exactly that, it's very close. 839 00:56:00,300 --> 00:56:04,520 I'm just tired of my mind being cluttered with things I didn't ask for. 840 00:56:04,980 --> 00:56:06,940 This is what I call mind rape. 841 00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:17,440 forced into my head without my consent. I know all five Kardashian sisters' 842 00:56:17,780 --> 00:56:23,400 names, and I know the names of all six of the characters on Friends, and yet 843 00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:25,600 I've never seen one minute of either show. 844 00:56:27,300 --> 00:56:29,320 I did not consent to that. 845 00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:35,200 I even know that Ross was a paleontologist. 846 00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:39,200 And the fact that I know that, I consider that violence. 847 00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:51,200 things about the Kardashian sisters I shouldn't, like the names of all their 848 00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:54,560 kids and which NBA team their fathers played for. 849 00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:00,040 I know Kim had several children with a Nazi. 850 00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:04,080 I know her ex -boyfriend has a big penis. 851 00:57:06,500 --> 00:57:11,220 People used to read books. Now they watch a YouTube of a raccoon opening a 852 00:57:11,220 --> 00:57:13,500 of soda. What did we think was going to happen? 853 00:57:21,100 --> 00:57:25,480 words that should never have been allowed to get inside my brain are Scott 854 00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:26,480 Dizik. 855 00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:36,260 I don't want to know who Bill Belichick's girlfriend is. I really 856 00:57:36,260 --> 00:57:40,800 I never get Alzheimer's, but if I do, at least I'll forget who Justin Baldoni 857 00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:41,658 ever was. 858 00:57:41,660 --> 00:57:45,800 All right. Thank you very much. I want to thank Brett Stevens, Jillian Tett, 859 00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:46,940 Governor Gavin Newsom. 860 00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:51,500 We're in the drops every Monday on YouTube or listen on Wherever you get 861 00:57:51,500 --> 00:57:53,880 podcasts, now go watch Overtime on YouTube. 862 00:57:54,100 --> 00:57:55,880 Thank you very much, ladies and gentlemen.